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This is slightly different than your regular Kickstarter project for a deck of cards, but there are tiers that come with decks that you can get. The film alone looks really, really interesting, and worth supporting.

A feature length documentary called "Lost in the Shuffle" is currently up on Kickstarter here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/li ... ocumentary

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It's described as: "A cinematic exploration of the long history between magicians and playing cards and the murder mystery hidden in their art."

They've got some great names involved: Shawn Farquhar, Michael Vincent, Alexandra Duvivier, Richard Turner, and Juan Tamariz.

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Cdn$25 gets you digital access to the film.

Here's a video trailer that covers the development of the project:



Here's a further video trailer explaining the concept:



They do have other packages available that include more goodies and extras, including tiers of support that get you custom decks of cards.

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Official page: https://lostintheshufflefilm.com
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Seems like a lot of effort went into the documentary. I'm glad that there're tiers without the deck.
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No mention of printer for the cards.
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Anyone else on their Kickstarter profile try to have the whole colored wheel filled from backing all different types of campaigns?
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The guys over at Deckin Around have done an interesting 45 minute interview with magician Shawn Farquhar and director Jon Ornoy about this project:

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This documentary would be very interesting for sure! - like how the King of Hearts might not be the historical figure we always know, and Shawn is investigating it!
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This is out already? I'm impressed, thanks for the pictures. Are there more cards in the style of the Jack/King gaff?

Have they released the film too, or is that scheduled for later?
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EndersGame wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:24 pmAre there more cards in the style of the Jack/King gaff?
Nope :( EDIT: Sort of! See below
EndersGame wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:24 pmHave they released the film too, or is that scheduled for later?
I don't think it's out yet
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If I recall correctly, the film is still likely about a year away. Ish.
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hsbc wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:13 pm
EndersGame wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:24 pmAre there more cards in the style of the Jack/King gaff?
Nope :(
Two questions:

1. I'm wondering about the decks in your photos. One is pictured with a seal, and one without a seal. Is that the same deck with the sticker removed? Or were there both sealed or unsealed decks that were part of this?

2. One of the Kickstarter updates showed more cards with the artwork in the style of the Jack/King of Spades gaff (Louis XII). It also shows the King of Hearts (Charles VIII) and Queen of Spades (Anne of Brittany). That gave me the impression that the entire deck was like this, rather than having standard courts. Are those cards not included with this deck then?

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EndersGame wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:56 amIs that the same deck with the sticker removed?
In my pictures, always :uggrin:
EndersGame wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:56 am It also shows the King of Hearts (Charles VIII) and Queen of Spades (Anne of Brittany). That gave me the impression that the entire deck was like this, rather than having standard courts. Are those cards not included with this deck then?
Okay so I was wrong and/or misunderstood your question :oops: And my pictures were incomplete! There is a full set of standard courts, the gaff card I posted, and two extra cards (also in the picture you posted) instead of ad cards

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Thanks for that, now it makes sense. Basically they've gone for standard courts, but switched out the usual jokers and ad cards for these special cards with Louis XII, Charles VIII, and Anne of Brittany. Is the fourth card a double backer?

I guess we'll have to wait for the documentary to find out the full story that Shawn Farquhar is telling behind these individuals. I imagine that when it does come out, it's going to send playing card historians into a bit of a tizzy, for trying to sell a narrative that goes against the conventional one.
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EndersGame wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:15 pmIs the fourth card a double backer?
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Does anyone know if this deck featured in the trailer is real? I like the back design quite a bit more than the official deck.
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Well, my supposition will be easily debunked by the person here who happens to have one said deck, but I'm pretty sure just based on the evolution of the promo that the answer is, "no." The promo materials originally featured the Bicycle "Rider" backs (and, in particular, the "Faded" Bikes produced by Magic Makers before USPCC decided not to allow variations on their Rider backs any longer.)

The fact that the promotional materials changed from using those iconic backs to these very simple and not terribly well-designed backs with these specific repeating images (which are relevant to the story in the movie) leads me to think maybe someone either at USPCC or MM told them to stop using their products in their promotional materials, and so they changed them to this make-do pattern.

Just a hunch. But like the documentary, I'm simply looking at the cards and seeing a potential story in the pattern that emerges. :-)
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The Lost In The Shuffle documentary has now been released, and for just $4.99 you can stream it on demand on a variety of platforms:
- USA & UK: iTunes/Apple TV, YoutTube, Microsoft/XBox, Fandango
- Rest of the World: Kinema

It's also being screened at selected theaters. For direct links to the above, and for information about theater screenings, see:

https://www.lostintheshuffle.film/live-dates

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I've watched the film and really enjoyed it. There's actually a lot going on, and the documentary ties together a number of different elements in a good way: playing card history, card magic, several big-name pro magicians, plus magician Shawn Farquhar travelling to various places. It's evident that the film-makers have poured a huge amount of time, effort, and love into making this film. Here's my review, with some of my impressions.

It was different than I expected, but in a good way. I was expecting the focal point to be a new theory by Shawn Farquhar about the meaning of the court cards, i.e. a documentary about playing card history. That was obviously a big part of the film. But what surprised me is how this story was constructed around card magic. In many ways it was more about card magic than about playing card history. And I loved that. The combination of different elements made it far more enjoyable to watch that I had anticipated.

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Shawn Farquhar is the "narrator", and it's through his eyes that the story is told. He's the perfect person for this, because he is just bursting with energy, and his enthusiasm for playing cards and for card magic is infectious.

Along with Shawn is an impressive team of people. Take a look at these big names: Alexandria Duvivier, Juan Tamariz, Michael Vincent, and Richard Turner. Anybody who knows something about card magic will realize that there's some real experts here. Seeing contemporary greats in card magic like Juan Tamariz, Richard Turner, and Michael Vincent being brought together like this was amazing. I have great very high respect for all of them. Alexandria Duvivier isn't quite in their league, but she fits in fine.

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The framework and structure of the film is put together well. I love how we join Shawn in meeting up with the four main magicians featured in the documentary, and with each of them there's a focus on a different plot in card magic. This is combined with the story about playing card history that he is digging up along the way. And all this is then capped off with a fun story-telling card magic routine at the end. That really helps hold everything together, and is done in a really lovely way.

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Shawn's "thesis" about the playing card characters ended up having a much lower profile than I was expecting. In short, he suggests that the traditional court card designs we're familiar with today help solve the mysterious death of King Charles VIII, who died in 1498. He believes that the traditional `suicide king' (King of Hearts) represents King Charles, and that his death wasn't caused by bumping his head on a door frame as is usually believed, but the royal figure represented by the Queen of Spades was the villain that hastened his death.

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It's probably a good thing that this storyline isn't laid on too thick, because the majority of playing card historians are unlikely to buy this theory. Personally I find it somewhat tenuous, because as some of the historians quoted in the film point out, there's no real evidence for it. Given the historical development of court cards, it's highly unlikely that a historical incident in a single setting would determine how court cards look all over France and around the world. Even Shawn himself often says things like "I believe this character is X" or "I believe this detail on the card is Y" with no real evidence for the connection.

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But that's okay, but that didn't prevent me enjoying the film because of the other content. If this film was intended purely to be a documentary presenting an alternate version of playing card history, this would be a weakness. But there's a lot to enjoy independent of that, especially the card magic. And while Shawn's theory becomes the framework and background premise for the documentary, the film doesn't need it to be true in order to work. It's more of an artistic framework, and while it could be true, the film doesn't stand or fall on whether or not it is factual. When watched as something that is informative and entertaining first of all, this approach is acceptable, and it would be unfair for playing card purists and historians to criticize it too sharply simply because they don't believe Shawn's alternate theory to be credible.

In fact, the film-maker Jon Ornay demonstrates intellectual honesty by not presenting Shawn's view as "fact". Near the end he even includes some of the historian guys consulted along the way saying "I have no way of being able to support this thesis". To me, that just proves that the film works, regardless of whether or not the viewer is convinced by Shawn.

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Does Shawn himself even believes the thesis he prevents? Probably. But we can't be entirely sure. He's first and foremost a magician. And magicians fool us. Is he perhaps using this whole story, just to lend legitimacy and historicity to the story-telling of his final routine? I wouldn't rule out a magician doing that, and I wouldn't put it past him to tell us about this "theory", when in reality what he's doing is just setting us up for the grand reveal and the storytelling routine in the end. If that's what is happening here, it's legitimate. But having said that, it is my understanding that he is serious about his theory, but fortunately the film can be enjoyed independent of how you personally feel about this.

Despite the above disclaimers about the historicity of Shawn's thesis about the identity of specific court cards, I did really like the section about the history of playing cards at the start. I've done a lot of reading and study on playing card history, and it seems to me that the quick tour we get of the overall history and development of playing cards is accurate, informative, and interesting.

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Furthermore, a lot of the history that is explored and explained by Shawn about King Charles and his court is also historical and accurate. It's just the connection between this history and playing cards that is uncertain, as is Shawn's theory about the actual cause of Charles' death). Fortunately the film doesn't push this too far, and as a viewer it's left up to you to agree or disagree.

Other aspects of the filmmaking are also solid. The music is well suited and professional, and complements the visuals nicely. The graphics and illustrations are well done for the most part too. The animated parts of the film are one of the weaker aspects, but I can understand the need for them, and they function adequately.

Having French-speaking experts makes things a little harder to follow at times, given the academic and historical content of what they speak about. But obviously they are authorities on the subject, so it is good to hear them in their own words and language. And of course English subtitles are provided.

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In short, I'm very pleased to see a documentary that does a nice job of making the history of playing cards interesting, and also gives us some intimate time with some fascinating personalities and some of the best card magicians in the world, and enjoy some fun card magic too. I'm pleased that "Lost In The Shuffle" has become more widely available and is now available for streaming, and I recommend checking it out if you can!

Where to find it:
- USA & UK
- Rest of the World

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Thank you so much for the information, EndersGame
I really interested I'm this documentary !
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It really does look interesting, I'll watch it.
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I was a backer, so I got to see an advanced screening. The theory about the murder isn't really a theory; it's a fun story to use as a vehicle to carry the rest of the movie forward. Along the way is where the real meat of the matter is, as far as I'm concerned. Shawn's enthusiasm is something I've always enjoyed, and the movie as a whole packs a lot of information with a lot of entertainment.

This isn't a Deadpool movie with all kinds of whiz bang entertainment being hurled at you. But it's fun and interesting, and what more could you ask for? I recommend it.

But, probably after you've caught the latest Deadpool movie. :D
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rousselle wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:01 pm I was a backer, so I got to see an advanced screening. The theory about the murder isn't really a theory; it's a fun story to use as a vehicle to carry the rest of the movie forward. Along the way is where the real meat of the matter is, as far as I'm concerned. Shawn's enthusiasm is something I've always enjoyed, and the movie as a whole packs a lot of information with a lot of entertainment.

This isn't a Deadpool movie with all kinds of whiz bang entertainment being hurled at you. But it's fun and interesting, and what more could you ask for? I recommend it.

But, probably after you've caught the latest Deadpool movie. :D
Now you really make me curious XD
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It's cruised past the first stretch goal, so that means it will be a marked deck:
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