Scam Alert! - Dragon Cards / World of Dragons

[jerichoholic]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/48 ... gons-cards
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/19 ... he-dragons

These 2 appear to be nothing more than scams. Their funding goals will not allow "Bicycle" printing and there is no info on who the printers actually are. The fact that the same person just launched a second extremely similar project raised some red flags for me and I believe it's nothing more than some scammers looking to cash in. I think it's pretty blatant. I am hoping the community here will join me in reporting these 2 projects en masse to Kickstarter so we can get them shut down and prevent people from getting screwed over!

[jerichoholic]

I think this all but confirms they are one and the same. Both responded that they are not the same person, both responses similar and coming at the around the same time, 2 hours ago. lol, caught them there. These scammers need to be shut down.

[Justin O.]

Do you have any non-circumstantial evidence?

[hawk199]

Project goal is 1000-1650 for a Bicycle brand and uspcc printed deck

He also pointed out their profile names have same surname and location, which is stupid (the 'scammer')

Bio also is similar
Stepanida Rodionov - "I love to create complex 3D."
Nikita I Rodionov - "Most of all I love to draw."

The $1000 project has 23 backer only and is already funded, I know it doesn't mean much but look at the reward tiers

The reward tier
"Pledge $150 or more

2 backers Limited (8 left of 10)

Material: High quality plastic

Playing cards (1 piece)

Unique project on kickstarter
+ free worldwide shipping!"

?????

[see_squared]

Not trying to rain on anyones parade but Yikes! In my opinion, both projects scream "Stay Away". Have created & ran 4 successful Kickstarter campaigns...building just the campaign on Kickstarter took me weeks each time (mainly because i obsessed over having as much information as possible available to backers at the time). Each of these two campaign pages look like they were created in less than an hour.

[jerichoholic]

I think the fact that "both" creators had similar responses to my comment and denied being affiliated with the other, of which both responses were done at about the same time as one another. They both have the same last name from Brooklyn and both are doing dragon decks. Since i've pointed out these facts they have been silent, go figure.

I think the only reason to launch a second project with the same theme under a different account, after the first one has already funded is solely to scam more people. If they bought one dragon deck they will more than likely buy a second different one.

[Gareth]

The story seems to be changing, in the 'Rise of the Dragons' comments is now;

Bicycle company will be used only if we reach the goal. If not, then another company.

and

And that's why me and my wife launched 2 separate projects to reach that goal and bring both projects to life. There's absolutely no scam here we just didn't want to confuse anyone. [...]

So... Rod's wide is called Stephan? Hmm.. each to their own.

The more comments the more incongruous it all appears.

There are just so many glaring issues these campaigns - such a lack of any attention to detail - that there is either an extremely disorganised person behind this or someone trying to rip-off us. eg. There are four tuck case (if not deck) colours in the 'Rise of the Dragons' campaign, yet what colours can you pledge for or will be printed? No information at all. At the end of the day it doesn't matter whether the decks will get printed someday (very doubtful) - would anyone trust their money to this person/people?

Thank you to jerichoholic for alerting so many to this.

[jerichoholic]

Correction the names are Stephanida and Nikita, which sounds like 2 women, not that there's anything wrong with that, but i'm not sure it's true either. "Rod" comes from their last name Rodionov

[pablo19]

Correction the names are Stephanida and Nikita, which sounds like 2 women, not that there's anything wrong with that, but i'm not sure it's true either. "Rod" comes from their last name Rodionov

Hey,
A scam or not a scam, I wouldn't back this project either way.
Not that any of this matters at this point, but Nikita is also a male name (Somebody remember this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Khrushchev" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Probably putting the bicycle name on the deck was a bad idea since they have not set a goal that would allow that, change that (and the apparent lie that they didn't know each other) and I wouldn't go as far as calling it a scam yet.

[jerichoholic]

Well what do you know, another Dragon deck from another creator also located in Brooklyn. Coincidence? I think not! Stay away!

[jerichoholic]

Oh look, they having problems, did I not call that?

[Talisman]

This is why it's great to be a member of this forum so that you stay informed of these situations that can be avoided.