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Bicycle cards list for Newbie collectors

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:01 am
by DidoDido
I and my friends had spent much time to build up this list, last updated date is 2012 - 07 - 29, because all my collection gone, there will be no more update therefore if anyone want to use this list as a base or index, I am glad you to edit the list :D.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/91431407/E.O.M. ... blic).xlsm

Hope this help to newbie collectors.

Best

p.s U need higher version (2008+) excel to use those macros that I added. there are pics, sort and search functions for this list.

P.s I dunt think this list is complete, therefore there must be some errors

Re: Bicycle cards list for Newbie collectors

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:11 am
by Strag
I think it would be awesome if this could be updated. Also better if we can somehow get it published somewhere on a web site.

Paging Bob Lancaster! :)

Re: Bicycle cards list for Newbie collectors

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:36 am
by MagikFingerz
Strag wrote:Paging Bob Lancaster! :)
He needs his own "bat-signal" :lol:

"Quick! To the card mobile!"

Re: Bicycle cards list for Newbie collectors

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:40 pm
by MJF
I'm working on building an online deck database that anyone would be able to add/modify records. Time hasn't been very abundant though...

Glad to see that folks are looking for something like that... which tell me my hunch was right... :D

Re: Bicycle cards list for Newbie collectors

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:35 pm
by rhu
As a newbie collector, thank you :)

Re: Bicycle cards list for Newbie collectors

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:30 pm
by RSLancastr
MagikFingerz wrote:
Strag wrote:Paging Bob Lancaster! :)
He needs his own "bat-signal" :lol:

"Quick! To the card mobile!"
Thanks, UC citizen!

Re: Bicycle cards list for Newbie collectors

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:31 am
by Xoul
Thank you very much!

About the playing cards DB site I could build it, but I would use the help of someone with experience on card collection to add content to the DB ;)

Re: Bicycle cards list for Newbie collectors

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:49 am
by Gareth
I don't want to dampen anyone's enthusiasm, but I think many of us have come up with the 'idea' of a card database. Unfortunately doing it well, from the DB structure to the massive amounts of content make it a lot of work.

I did consider creating a wiki for playing cards, but really after starting to understand the work involved (and other priorities) have decided to postpone it (so far, for about the past 2 years :D ).

Some things that I think would be important to make it a genuine resource for the community;
  • Independence - not be related to any of the card sellers. (once you have links to 'buy from this dealer' on a listing of a deck the site becomes an advertising engine)
  • objective - having any 'review' or large opinion-based content would make each item quite controversial. (You may not think it, but listings would quickly devolve into wars on whether the deck is good, or bad. - Obviously links to outside reviews should be encouraged).

Re: Bicycle cards list for Newbie collectors

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:56 am
by RSLancastr
Gareth wrote:I don't want to dampen anyone's enthusiasm, but I think many of us have come up with the 'idea' of a card database. Unfortunately doing it well, from the DB structure to the massive amounts of content make it a lot of work.

I did consider creating a wiki for playing cards, but really after starting to understand the work involved (and other priorities) have decided to postpone it (so far, for about the past 2 years :D ).
Not to dampen your dampening, but:

1. While the amount of content could indeed be massive, this can be mitigated by creating a Wiki - initially, at least - with a limited scope (the decks from a particular country, manufacturer, genre or published within a given time frame.

Reference books often do this. For example, The Hochman Encyclopedia of American Playing Cards by Tom & Juidy Dawson (an excellent resource, by the way) not only limits its content to decks published in America, but to decks published in America up until (IIRC) 1930.

2. Making it a true Wiki, thus spreading the data entry work out among numerous interested parties, makes the work far more manageable (although whoever is in charge would still need to keep an eye on everything - a big job in and of itself)

Gareth wrote:Some things that I think would be important to make it a genuine resource for the community;
  • Independence - not be related to any of the card sellers. (once you have links to 'buy from this dealer' on a listing of a deck the site becomes an advertising engine)
While I understand your concern, I believe that links to places where a deck may be obtained would be an important part of such a resource. A disclaimer stating that such links are NOT meant as recommendations nor as endorsements of the seller(s) listed, and shopping around is still recommended (Bla, bla, bla).

I think that one of the biggest jobs in such a project would be the Executive Editor in charge of overseeing everything, insuring consistency.
Not including such links would not only (in my opinion) eliminate a valuable part of the resource, but would discourage sellers from updating the Wiki, thus eliminating another valuable resource (the sellers' knowledge and participation in the project as a whole).
Gareth wrote:[*]objective - having any 'review' or large opinion-based content would make each item quite controversial. (You may not think it, but listings would quickly devolve into wars on whether the deck is good, or bad. - Obviously links to outside reviews should be encouraged).[/list]
Yes, so-called "Wiki Wars" would insue. Objective content is not only controversial, but would inevitably lead to inconsistencies in the database (the editor of the entry on Deck A loves some aspect of the hobby (Custom courts/thin borders/whatever), while the editor of the entry about Deck B hates it, so one deck gets praised for the very thing the other gets criticised for, etc.)