GROTESK MACABRE

[Justin O.]

Live!

Thanks for the reminder, in for one and one

[pablo19]

Soooo I refresh the newest ks projects page at 5 edt, and directly all the early birds are gone and the project already has upwards of 3000 dollars backing... how even? It didn't take a second !


EDIT: aaaaand the funding is reached after less than 10 minutes! Congratulations!

[Thedissident001]

And 100% funded

[pablo19]

I guess I'll throw the first stone, because there are two things that kind of bug me with the shipping... Since this is shipping along with black mass for those that backed it we would basically be paying for shipping twice as it is included in the price for each deck separately. Second, I'll assume shipping to the U.S. is way more expensive than shipping to an EU country, there is not many times EU backers can get discounted shipping so it's a bit frustrating that we are paying the same for shipping (because the price of the deck without shipping should be equal for all backers, instead it seems for europeans the decks themselves are relatively more expensive because of lower actual shipping costs).

So yeah, that's something I'd like to see addressed

[JacksandJokers]

This was a first for me, Backer #1 (after backing over 400+ things on KS). Woo!

Damn, You must have lightning fast fingers. Just beat me, backer #2

[Lotrek]

I guess I'll throw the first stone, because there are two things that kind of bug me with the shipping... Since this is shipping along with black mass for those that backed it we would basically be paying for shipping twice as it is included in the price for each deck separately. Second, I'll assume shipping to the U.S. is way more expensive than shipping to an EU country, there is not many times EU backers can get discounted shipping so it's a bit frustrating that we are paying the same for shipping (because the price of the deck without shipping should be equal for all backers, instead it seems for europeans the decks themselves are relatively more expensive because of lower actual shipping costs).

So yeah, that's something I'd like to see addressed

Regarding the double shipping for those who backed Black mass, you have a point. What I can do is refund part of the shipping costs to Black Mass backers after the end of the campaign. I think this is fair and thank you for pointing it out.

For the shipment to EU and US, the difference is very small, about 1 euro/deck, dropping as you add decks to the package. Where it is way more expensive to send to US is the bricks. For bricks I have separate shipping costs for EU and RoW.

[sms69x]

I guess I'll throw the first stone, because there are two things that kind of bug me with the shipping... Since this is shipping along with black mass for those that backed it we would basically be paying for shipping twice as it is included in the price for each deck separately. Second, I'll assume shipping to the U.S. is way more expensive than shipping to an EU country, there is not many times EU backers can get discounted shipping so it's a bit frustrating that we are paying the same for shipping (because the price of the deck without shipping should be equal for all backers, instead it seems for europeans the decks themselves are relatively more expensive because of lower actual shipping costs).

So yeah, that's something I'd like to see addressed

+1 for that! I was about to do the same comment, but you were faster!

Regarding the double shipping for those who backed Black mass, you have a point. What I can do is refund part of the shipping costs to Black Mass backers after the end of the campaign. I think this is fair and thank you for pointing it out.

For the shipment to EU and US, the difference is very small, about 1 euro/deck, dropping as you add decks to the package. Where it is way more expensive to send to US is the bricks. For bricks I have separate shipping costs for EU and RoW.

And +1 for that too. Thank you for refunding Balck mass backers!

[shermjack]

Over 8.5K, foiled faces, here we come!

[4.of.Clubs]

Regarding the double shipping for those who backed Black mass, you have a point. What I can do is refund part of the shipping costs to Black Mass backers after the end of the campaign. I think this is fair and thank you for pointing it out.

This would be awesome.

[Justin O.]

Regarding the double shipping for those who backed Black mass, you have a point. What I can do is refund part of the shipping costs to Black Mass backers after the end of the campaign. I think this is fair and thank you for pointing it out.

What is the best way for us, for you, to let you know if we are getting the Black Mass decks to be shipped together and refunded for the one project's shipping?

[Bikefanatic]

I'm lost about thE shipping. For Black Mass, it didn't look like shipping was added to the decks. For Black Gold/Silver, looks like shipping also wasn't added to price.

If someone got an EB Black Gold for $40, shipping is included right? A non EB is $47.....

[4.of.Clubs]

I'm lost about thE shipping. For Black Mass, it didn't look like shipping was added to the decks. For Black Gold/Silver, looks like shipping also wasn't added to price.

If someone got an EB Black Gold for $40, shipping is included right? A non EB is $47.....

Shipping is included in the price for all the decks.

[Lotrek]

I'm lost about thE shipping. For Black Mass, it didn't look like shipping was added to the decks. For Black Gold/Silver, looks like shipping also wasn't added to price.

If someone got an EB Black Gold for $40, shipping is included right? A non EB is $47.....

Shipping is included in the price for all the decks.

With the exception of bricks. There we have shipment added.

Foil on the faces... Not bad, eh?

[pablo19]

Regarding the double shipping for those who backed Black mass, you have a point. What I can do is refund part of the shipping costs to Black Mass backers after the end of the campaign. I think this is fair and thank you for pointing it out.

For the shipment to EU and US, the difference is very small, about 1 euro/deck, dropping as you add decks to the package. Where it is way more expensive to send to US is the bricks. For bricks I have separate shipping costs for EU and RoW.

Hey Lotrek, thanks for commenting on the shipping. I'm surprised the difference is only about a euro from EU to US but the other way around it's more expensive and designers on KS are charging $7-$20
The refunding for black mass is cool, thank you. Still on the fence because I've already gone way over my budget this month... let's see if the foil gets unlocked maybe some more early birds

[Cbkimble]

I'm lost about thE shipping. For Black Mass, it didn't look like shipping was added to the decks. For Black Gold/Silver, looks like shipping also wasn't added to price.

If someone got an EB Black Gold for $40, shipping is included right? A non EB is $47.....

Shipping is included in the price for all the decks.

With the exception of bricks. There we have shipment added.

Foil on the faces... Not bad, eh?

I understand 12 decks is quite a few decks but why the charge for someone buying more than someone buying less. Seems a little backwards.

[MagikFingerz]

I'm lost about thE shipping. For Black Mass, it didn't look like shipping was added to the decks. For Black Gold/Silver, looks like shipping also wasn't added to price.

If someone got an EB Black Gold for $40, shipping is included right? A non EB is $47.....

Shipping is included in the price for all the decks.

With the exception of bricks. There we have shipment added.

Foil on the faces... Not bad, eh?

I understand 12 decks is quite a few decks but why the charge for someone buying more than someone buying less. Seems a little backwards.

The brick is quite a bit cheaper per deck than singles though. I guess he could've just raised that price to include the higher shipping, but that wouldn't really make any difference. This way is more transparent. I don't see why he wouldn't charge for the shipping if the difference is as high as he says it is, nor why it's a surprise that it costs more to ship a brick than fewer decks.

[Lotrek]

Basically I like seeing from the beginning the money I'm going to pay. You pledge for a deck that costs $12 for instance and when you check out you realize that it will cost you $22 with shipment. Since KS gives the chance of multiple destinations you cannot see the added shipping costs from the beginning anymore.
That's why I prefer to have shipment included since the difference according to the destination is very small.
For some weird reason though, when you send a package heavier than 1500gms (a brick is about 1600gms), the Greek postal service charges $11 more per parcel for countries outside EU. That's why I decided to have the bricks with the shipping cost added.
If you do the math you'll see that for 1 brick the price/deck is slightly discounted.

[Cbkimble]

Basically I like seeing from the beginning the money I'm going to pay. You pledge for a deck that costs $12 for instance and when you check out you realize that it will cost you $22 with shipment. Since KS gives the chance of multiple destinations you cannot see the added shipping costs from the beginning anymore.
That's why I prefer to have shipment included since the difference according to the destination is very small.
For some weird reason though, when you send a package heavier than 1500gms (a brick is about 1600gms), the Greek postal service charges $11 more per parcel for countries outside EU. That's why I decided to have the bricks with the shipping cost added.
If you do the math you'll see that for 1 brick the price/deck is slightly discounted.

Thanks for the explaination Lotrek. I wasn't complaining. Hope it wasn't taken that way. That's definitely understandable.

[Bikefanatic]

So if someone were to have 8 decks between the two projects (4 from each), how will shipping work out?

[Lotrek]

So if someone were to have 8 decks between the two projects (4 from each), how will shipping work out?

I'll calculate the cost for sending 8 decks, I'll subtract it from the total paid by the backer and I'll refund the rest.

[Lotrek]

[RichK]

Here, take it. $$$$$

[Justin O.]

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Black foil!!? Black foiiilll????? Pleeeeasse be black foil.

[RichK]

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Black foil!!? Black foiiilll????? Pleeeeasse be black foil.

I don't see why it wouldn't be if he's got the foiling mechanics perfected. Go big or go home! (Fingers crossed for foil.)

[pablo19]

yup black foil on red card stock, again a first.... damnit Lotrek

[RichK]

I'm relatively new to collecting but don't think I've ever seen a red card stock before.

[Räpylätassu]

Holy Mother of Nutella.

They do move in herds... *Tears Up*

[Lotrek]

Red stock

Black foil on the back

Black and gold foil on the faces

Available only during the final 24 hours of the campaign. Not before, not after.

[Bruno]

Again he's right there ahead of any of 'em ....
You don't get jaw-dropping innovation so much as
¡¡¡ THE UNHOLISTICLY HOWLING CRIMSON HORDES OF HADES !!!

Lotrek in action.

[Justin O.]

Red stock
Black foil on the back
Black and gold foil on the faces
Available only during the final 24 hours of the campaign. Not before, not after.

Will it be limited during the last 24 hours, or will it be available for anyone who wants it within that window?