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Have you tried playing with such highly customized Hanafuda or Hwatu cards? Can't be easy. At least for the poker cards, you usually go with the indices when playing, but these don't have that.
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I can handle playing with most of them pretty easily - a few get crazy enough so I need the cheat sheet next to me

That last hwatu set is actually pretty standard in the content, and has the month names on the cards, so thats especially easy to play.


I think Night Parade Fusion is one of the toughest - even with the markings for assistance…. Worth the trouble though - nice to mix things up…

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Eric Lee wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:31 am How did you get the Snoopy Museum deck? I can't anything less than $50 on ebay and that's not counting shipping.

One’s available now:

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Ran across this site today - tons of interesting stuff here

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Kuroko's Basketball Hanafuda


Very high quality - very fun….

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Just scored from Japan - been looking for this one since I first found Tengudo…. They had it up on the english version of their site and I had foolish dreams it might be in stock - back then all inquiries went unanswered and I planned to stow away on a ship one day so I might visit in person and perhaps stumble upon one.


Prime Minister Karuta - gold wrapped version - by Oishi Tengudo

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Less shiny, and less square footage, and less in japan than off ebay in the US - I spotted it on ebay and just knew it would be on zenmarket for a pittance in comparison…. when its a seller from Japan its almost always the case.

They make a few variety of the keychains - this is the nicest of the plastic cased sets - still on the lookout for a metal case - perhaps I only dreamed they existed… ;)

Can’t remember when these were made - I figure 70s for this type of thing


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Stumbled across - Hana Awase Zensho - on the way…

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Another bunch on the way from Japan - some One Piece dice and one heck of an old deck

Will get on the photo job when they arrive and start piling through the backlog - the train is about to get moving again and we have a lot of stops to make.

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Another example of ebay sellers listing things that are on zenmarket with the standard predatory markup:


Zenmarket listing:

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Resisting of that same item by more than one ebay seller (often the case)

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That particular deck from Matsui is from his second quality line - so the Matsui Tengudo name is not the only thing to pay attention to when buying his decks. Most of his are in wood boxes with some very nice rare exceptions.

I always hit this page first to see whats up with a deck I don’t recognize:

https://games.porg.es/articles/cards/ja ... facturers/
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I think this deck can benefit from some gold ink highlights (would go where the grey texturing highlights go). Would it be possible for you to upload the original pictures somewhere where I can print a deck and experiment with painting over it? I would imagine choosing the right cardstock for the ink matters a lot.


GandalfPC wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:01 pm The last deck done at MPC - this one could benefit from some gold ink or foil as the originals featured quite a bit.

It’s a playable deck, though a few of the tens take a close eye to discern.

This one was done with a thin border - I have a different deck ready to print with a thick border next which allows for some easier alignment and more even looking borders for varying aspect ratios.


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smzh8890 wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:58 am I think this deck can benefit from some gold ink highlights (would go where the grey texturing highlights go). Would it be possible for you to upload the original pictures somewhere where I can print a deck and experiment with painting over it? I would imagine choosing the right cardstock for the ink matters a lot.

Welcome aboard ;)

I zipped up the images for all four decks as a set - hanafudaReprintSet01.zip - the one you are looking for is kaikinki-hanafuda19 I believe.

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stock and finish will make a difference - I would have a chat with MPC (makeplayingcards.com) to see what they have for you
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Cool site. Like how you organized the decks. Wish P52 had a subcollection feature similar to that.
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I do too - only reason I made it was I was frustrated with the broken sort once you get past 1000 decks
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GandalfPC wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:06 pm I do too - only reason I made it was I was frustrated with the broken sort once you get past 1000 decks
I'm at 589, so no issues for me, although I have had my custom sort "reset" once or twice in the past.
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I believe the Botan/Peony brand would also be a machine printed (e.g. not stenciled-colored) deck.
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Thank you for the upload. I think the ones I was looking for was chihou cards.
One additional request (if it's convenient for you), would you mind sending the pictures without the red boarder, and square pictures (without the rounded corners)?
my plan:
- print off the cards on my own card stock with a custom boarder (but square, instead of rounded corners)
- I will draw with gold ink the highlights onto the print
- I will wrap it around the old traditional way with gold foiled paper and glue

All the traditional wraparound cards are square corners thats why i made the request.
Once I'm done with the process maybe I can upload some pictures here to show

Thank you


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smzh8890 wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:58 am I think this deck can benefit from some gold ink highlights (would go where the grey texturing highlights go). Would it be possible for you to upload the original pictures somewhere where I can print a deck and experiment with painting over it? I would imagine choosing the right cardstock for the ink matters a lot.

Welcome aboard ;)

I zipped up the images for all four decks as a set - hanafudaReprintSet01.zip - the one you are looking for is kaikinki-hanafuda19 I believe.

http://gandalfpc.great-site.net/hanafuda/

stock and finish will make a difference - I would have a chat with MPC (makeplayingcards.com) to see what they have for you
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smzh8890 wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:40 am One additional request (if it's convenient for you), would you mind sending the pictures without the red boarder, and square pictures (without the rounded corners)?

Quite certain I have all the source images you seek - will put it on the ToDo to upload here, may take a few days to get to it
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Been trying to score a copy of this book for a long time - should be here in a few weeks:


"Hanafuda/Karuta Exhibition" Catalog


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smzh8890 wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:40 am One additional request (if it's convenient for you), would you mind sending the pictures without the red boarder, and square pictures (without the rounded corners)?
Uploading the source images as Set01_source: http://gandalfpc.great-site.net/hanafuda/
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Thank you. I am currently sourcing the washi to print them on and the backing/wrapping paper. I will drop and update here from time to time
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smzh8890 wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:40 am One additional request (if it's convenient for you), would you mind sending the pictures without the red boarder, and square pictures (without the rounded corners)?
Uploading the source images as Set01_source: http://gandalfpc.great-site.net/hanafuda/
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Another oddity - full set of 48 Nishiki hanafuda coasters on the way…

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I don't have the right paper or glue or brush yet but I did a trial run on painting them gold. Also hand wrapped 3 of them for practice.
I am confident that I can replicate the original hand wrapping technique to recreate the hand rail. Next step is to wait for the right paper and glues to arrive and learn stencil dyeing :lol:
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smzh8890 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:53 am I don't have the right paper or glue or brush yet but I did a trial run on painting them gold. Also hand wrapped 3 of them for practice.
I am confident that I can replicate the original hand wrapping technique to recreate the hand rail. Next step is to wait for the right paper and glues to arrive and learn stencil dyeing :lol:


The right paper should be washi I believe and it seems you can print on it…

https://www.washiarts.com/digital-printing-on-washi

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The term handrail refers to:

This technique is called tesurizuri (手摺摺り), which literally translates to "handrail rubbing." It's a unique method of applying ink to the woodblock using a hand-held tool instead of the traditional baren.

Here's how it works:

The woodblock is prepared with the desired design carved into its surface.
A small amount of ink is placed on the raised areas of the block.
The artist uses a special tool, often made of bamboo or bone, to rub the ink across the block. This tool has a curved edge that resembles a handrail, hence the name of the technique.
The rubbing action forces the ink into the carved lines and grooves, creating a delicate and nuanced print with a slightly raised texture.

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Some videos on the making of such cards, including the reinforcing and wrapping - the ideal curvature of the cards so they sit on their four corners is achieved during the wrapping:




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Thanks for the information, I got the right papers from Japan and currently are being shipped over.
I think what you described was the older technique that Oishi used to make hanafuda. The Matsui cards are all made with stencil dyeing technique which is slightly different from the wood block printing.

GandalfPC wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:06 pm
smzh8890 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:53 am I don't have the right paper or glue or brush yet but I did a trial run on painting them gold. Also hand wrapped 3 of them for practice.
I am confident that I can replicate the original hand wrapping technique to recreate the hand rail. Next step is to wait for the right paper and glues to arrive and learn stencil dyeing :lol:


The right paper should be washi I believe and it seems you can print on it…

https://www.washiarts.com/digital-printing-on-washi

—-

The term handrail refers to:

This technique is called tesurizuri (手摺摺り), which literally translates to "handrail rubbing." It's a unique method of applying ink to the woodblock using a hand-held tool instead of the traditional baren.

Here's how it works:

The woodblock is prepared with the desired design carved into its surface.
A small amount of ink is placed on the raised areas of the block.
The artist uses a special tool, often made of bamboo or bone, to rub the ink across the block. This tool has a curved edge that resembles a handrail, hence the name of the technique.
The rubbing action forces the ink into the carved lines and grooves, creating a delicate and nuanced print with a slightly raised texture.

——

Some videos on the making of such cards, including the reinforcing and wrapping - the ideal curvature of the cards so they sit on their four corners is achieved during the wrapping:




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They did the wood block for the black outlines, then stencils for the colors, then a block again for the silver/gold from what I’ve seen.
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