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Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:12 pm  

First of all, I'd like to thank everyone for really using and enjoying our first featured collector, and welcome our second: our own moderator Jay Rideout (AKA "CBJ")! Jay has a truly remarkable collection, one that started out exclusively "Bikes" like many collectors did, but has extended into the contemporary mind-set that almost all of us have at this point: without putting any words in Jay's mouth - we buy what we like, whether or not it has the Bicycle logo emblazoned upon the tuck case. Even so, his collection is primarily laser-focused on good old United States Playing Card Company's Bicycle brand (and Bee, Tally Ho, etc). Without further fanfare, here's Jay's 1-on-1 Q&A interview session:



Q: When did you start collecting playing cards?

Back in Sept/Oct of 2009 I was making a delivery for Cadbury to a wholesale store in Toronto. The person I had to meet up with was busy, so I roamed around the store for a bit, and came across a section where they had a variety of playing card. I was immediately drawn to 2 decks… the Bicycle Limited Edition #1, and the Bicycle Guardians.
I play poker a couple of times a month and we always played with basic rider backs. I had never seen different Bicycle decks, so I thought I’d pick up the 2 decks and try them out at the next game. A week or so later, a friend hosted a poker game and asked me to bring my poker chips over. I brought the new decks over as well, and we used those for the night - they were a huge hit.
The next day, I thought I’d hop on YouTube to see what other people thought of the decks. I started watching a review of the Guardians deck, and right away I thought there was something wrong… my deck didn’t have a double backer!
I called Bicycle to let them know that I had a defective deck, and they told me that only the T11 version has the double backer.
So, this brought me to T11 where I found even MORE cool decks, and then by researching more… I came across Ellusionist. I kept talking about these playing cards to my wife, and showing her the decks online. She told me to make a list, and she’d try to get me a few for Christmas.
Well, Christmas morning came… and WOW!!
She bought me all 24 decks on my list, AND had a friend of mine make a display box for them. I was blown away! Here are pics I took that day:


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/Cards002_zps077cd8b7.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/Cards008_zps7f5fbb6b.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/Cards011_zps2f1a8bfe.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/Cards032_zps266c0202.jpg






Q: How many decks are in your collection?

As of today (Apr 28th, 2014), I have around 720 different decks in my collection + my minis. I also have around 350-400 duplicates.



Q: What types of decks do you collect?

Bicycle… Obviously.



Q: Where do you think the hobby is going and what changes do you see coming soon? (or what changes do you think will happen?)

I see major changes that have started in the playing card industry... lead by designers like Jackson, Paul, Alex, Randy, to name a few. These designers are pushing the limits of design, and forcing card manufacturers to innovate. You can see these changes happening with tuckbox design, embossing techniques, die cuts, foiling etc. And, with new card manufacturers as an option, things are only going to get better! Competition is ALWAYS a good thing for the consumer, it forces companies to bring their A-game.

As for changes I’d like to see…
I guess the main one is for the prices to drop back down to manageable levels for heavy collectors. I know that with extra bells and whistles, comes extra fees that designers have to pass along to the buyers. It’s just getting very expensive when designers are releasing decks at a starting price of $14-$20 per deck.



Q: What is the oldest deck in your collection?
I really don’t have many vintage decks at all. I think the oldest deck I have is a Bicycle bridge deck, and an old rider back (not sure of the dates)


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/IMG_0163_zps1c2fcfa5.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/IMG_0162_zpscf488558.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/IMG_0161_zps17452815.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/IMG_0160_zps32886774.jpg



Q: What is your favorite deck in your collection and why?

I have many favourite decks in my collection… to narrow it down to one single one is tough. I’m a HUGE fan of the Jackson’s Federal 52, and Alex Chin’s Seasons decks.
But, if I had to pick one, I’d say the Bicycle Shadow Masters from Ellusionist.... made even better with blacked out edges...


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/Playing%20Cards/IMG_0101.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/Playing%20Cards/IMG_0104.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/Playing%20Cards/IMG_0098.jpg




Q: What deck that you do not have would you most like to have?


I’d love to have sealed vintage Bicycle decks, but they go for crazy prices.
As for modern Bicycle decks, there is one deck that I can’t track down.
And yes, it’s real.

The Bicycle New Era (gold Edition)


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/396208_304497332946051_167240643338388_877980_101670059_n_zps6ea174b4.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1069091_495306273897123_955418251_n_zpsec92a63d.jpg



Q: Why the nickname CBJ?

Well, it has nothing to do with hockey or the Columbus Blue Jackets.

Let me start by saying that I’ve worked in the chocolate industry for over 20 years…

In my early 20s, I started hanging out with a new group of friends. In our group there were 3 Jasons, so if I came up in conversation when I wasn’t around…
someone would ask “which Jason?”, and the response would be.. “ the chocolate bar guy”. This quickly changed into Chocolate Bar Jay, and then became CBJ.
Most of my friends call me CB or CBJ. Even their kids call me CBJ


Like any collection I've never really seen close-ups of, I can only lust after certain decks that I've never even seen before - perhaps heard tails of.

...and now - fire away! Jay is happy to answer your questions and I can assure you what you see now is just getting us warmed up. --M
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby CBJ » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:17 pm  

Thanks Mike for the lead in!


Hello all, my name is Jason.. and I'm an addict.

So, a few basic stats:

Name: Jason Rideout
Age: 41
Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

I’m married to an amazing woman, who is very supportive of my hobby… most times.


So today is day 1 of my 2 months with you guys, so let’s get to it!
First, if you’ve ever wanted to ask me any questions about my collection, the hobby, or anything at all… now is the time.

Second, I have over 700 different decks in my collection. I’ll try to spread it out over the full 60 days, so don’t expect it all in the first week or so. But if there’s something you just don’t want to wait for, speak up!

and third… near the end of the 2 months I’ll be giving away some decks/products. I haven’t worked out the how yet, but you need to keep watching this thread to find out all the details.


So, where to start… where to start…


There are a few decks that I get asked about all the time, so I guess I’ll start with one of those sets.

The Bicycle Split Spades prototype deck set from David Blaine. ( CLICK PICS FOR LARGER VIEWS )



http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1401250_556408837786866_111091595_o_zps30311b82.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1399563_556409021120181_1039034881_o_zpse6b90bc6.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1399089_556409064453510_1147848079_o_zps53cede39.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1421174_556409051120178_734983873_o_zpsfee53fbb.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1400217_556408967786853_773125823_o_zps1b76924a.jpg



The above packaging boxes are different than the ones that were eventually released for retail...


This...

http://www.magictimes.com/archives/2010/images/2010-09-30-spotlight-hypnotic-35.jpg

became this...

http://www.magictimes.com/archives/2010/images/2010-09-30-update-red-deck.jpg



This...

http://www.magictimes.com/archives/2010/images/2010-09-30-spotlight-deception-35.jpg

became this...

http://www.magictimes.com/archives/2010/images/2010-09-30-update-bluedeck.jpg



This...

http://www.magictimes.com/archives/2010/images/2010-09-30-spotlight-decoder-35.jpg

became this...

http://www.magictimes.com/archives/2010/images/2010-09-30-update-blackdeck.jpg



And of course they changed the decks a bit ( I prefer the prototypes )...


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1417494_556408854453531_1143709444_o_zps194295ce.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1400608_556408871120196_860168457_o_zps1b70fd7a.jpg


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/1396893_556408941120189_1212177127_o_zps4dc3e511.jpg



And here are the retail ones...


http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/877809794/Free-shipping-Bicycle-split-spades-playing-card-poker-david-blaine.jpg_350x350.jpg



The prototypes are from mid 2010, with the retail decks hitting the market late 2010.


How did I get them?


On the old UC.net someone had posted a pic, and I tracked down the guy that owned them. He wouldn't sell.
I called USPC, and chatted with someone there about the situation and they put me in contact with someone who they knew had 3-4 sets.
I contacted that guy (I forget his name), and he told me that a couple of different people had messaged him about the decks and that he would put up one set on Ebay.

I wasn't too happy about bidding against other collectors, but a few days later they popped up on Ebay.

I obviously ended up winning the auction for around $70 (at the time, the biggest one time card purchase for me).


A couple of years later, the blue and the black decks were included in the V1 of the blaine collector box


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xmAuWAakByQ/TvbGoO3qYwI/AAAAAAAAAKk/837sq0r-Mlk/s320/david1+%25281%2529.jpg



Well, I'll end my first post there, and I look forward to the questions and comments about my collection!!



Jay
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby Eoghann » Thu May 01, 2014 12:28 am  

Hey Jay! Been looking forward to your thread. :)

Are the David Blaine prototypes the rarest decks in your collection?
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby shadowkat » Thu May 01, 2014 6:05 am  

As a fan of David Blaine, I am envious of your proto type set! They do look better than the released versions. What do you mean by blacked out edges on the Shadow Masters? Looking forward to seeing your collection. Thanks for your time.
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Thu May 01, 2014 6:53 am  

Excellent start, Jay! This is going to be a whole lot of fun! I'm always amazed by some of the decks - especially those prototype decks which I LOVE to grab, and they are just so hard to find...
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby CBJ » Thu May 01, 2014 10:51 am  

Eoghann wrote:Are the David Blaine prototypes the rarest decks in your collection?



Hey Eoghann!

Rarity is a hard thing to narrow down. 1000 runs of decks are more and more common now.
I really don't know the press run of the blaine prototypes, so it's hard to gauge where they fall on the rarity scale.

If we're talking rarity by the numbers... I would say the Gold Monarch is the rarest deck I own.
Only 144 were printed, and only 111 were sold. You can read more about them here:
http://thecardcollectors.blogspot.ca/2012/06/gold-monarch-vs-normal-monarch-theory11.html

If we're talking rarity because of how it was distributed and how hard it is to find... I would have to say the Bicycle Grand Opening deck.
These were handed out at the ceremony celebrating the grand opening of the new USPC plant on August 20th, 2009.


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/1rideout/Bicycle-GrandOpening_zpsb2fa7606.jpg


I also have a few more prototype decks that I'll be showing in the weeks to come.




shadowkat wrote:What do you mean by blacked out edges on the Shadow Masters?



Hey Shadowkat!

By "blacked out edges", I mean that I took a Sharpie and "sharpied" all the edges of the cards... one card at a time.

The thread on Aether has a lot of back and forth on this subject
http://www.playingcardforum.com/playing ... our-decks/..........


I've also done a couple of other color decks as well with this method. The Bicycle Reverse Back (Red), and the Bicycle Reverse Back (Green) by Magic Makers.
The red turned out amazing!!! but the green was a disaster (the green one can be seen on page 6 of the Aether thread)


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If you're going to attempt this, I HIGHLY recommend one card at a time.


I hope that answers your questions :)


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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby RSLancastr » Thu May 01, 2014 11:26 am  

Say, what is it with us Featured Folks and "New Era" decks?

First, I mention an early American deck of that name as my "most desired deck".

Then Jackson mentions a "New Era" deck (I'm not sure which one) as HIS "most desired deck".

Now, CBJ mentions the fairly-recent Bicycle "New Era" deck as HIS "most desired deck"!

I'm starting to sense a pattern... :D
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby Eoghann » Thu May 01, 2014 11:27 am  

Thanks for the reply! Looking forward to see what other rarities you have!

I have to admit I had heard about running a sharpie on the edges but I had never seen the process. Those look fantastic! Think I'll start doing that on some of mine. :)
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby RSLancastr » Thu May 01, 2014 11:40 am  

Where can I get a ton of white Sharpies?

ETA: And Mike: Why the dark red font for the interview questions? You own stock in Bausch & Lomb or something? :ugdance:
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby Mike Ratledge » Thu May 01, 2014 2:32 pm  

RSLancastr wrote:Say, what is it with us Featured Folks and "New Era" decks?

First, I mention an early American deck of that name as my "most desired deck".

Then Jackson mentions a "New Era" deck (I'm not sure which one) as HIS "most desired deck".

Now, CBJ mentions the fairly-recent Bicycle "New Era" deck as HIS "most desired deck"!

I'm starting to sense a pattern... :D

Completely different decks, Jay is talking about the Gold/Limited version of the 59-fifty deck, Jackson is talking about an antique deck called "New Era" that is more than 100 years old.
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby RSLancastr » Thu May 01, 2014 4:59 pm  

Mike Ratledge wrote:Completely different decks, Jay is talking about the Gold/Limited version of the 59-fifty deck, Jackson is talking about an antique deck called "New Era" that is more than 100 years old.


So Jackson and I are both talking about the same deck then. I thought so, but wasn't sure.

And yes, I knew that Jay's "New Era" deck was a modern Bike (as I said in my post).

I was just noting the unusual coincidence that all three of us wanted decks with "New Era" in their name is all.

Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.

ETA:
Jay wrote:Well, it has nothing to do with hockey or the Columbus Blue Jackets.

Let me start by saying that I’ve worked in the chocolate industry for over 20 years…

In my early 20s, I started hanging out with a new group of friends. In our group there were 3 Jasons, so if I came up in conversation when I wasn’t around…
someone would ask “which Jason?”, and the response would be.. “ the chocolate bar guy”. This quickly changed into Chocolate Bar Jay, and then became CBJ.
Most of my friends call me CB or CBJ. Even their kids call me CBJ



BUZZZZZZ!!!

Oh, we're sorry, Jay, but the response the judges were looking for is "What is Certified Bicycle Junkie?".

Better luck in Double Jeopardy. :D
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby nECr0MaNCeD » Thu May 01, 2014 11:55 pm  

Hello CBJ;
Sorry to come to the party late. I just got in from work. My question is about displays. Are all of your decks displayed? If so, how? I saw the picture of your first display but I doubt you managed to stick 720 decks in there... :D
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby RSLancastr » Fri May 02, 2014 12:14 am  

nECr0MaNCeD wrote:HI saw the picture of your first display but I doubt you managed to stick 720 decks in there... :D


...or that his friend made him thirty of them...
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby volantangel » Fri May 02, 2014 12:52 am  

Haha to my knowledge Jay is still having his displays sorted out, and those are scans stitched together.

Those displays are going to be epic, Jay can start a museum soon.
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby shadowkat » Sat May 03, 2014 1:52 am  

Thank you for your reply CBJ. I have a really beat up Black Ghost that I am going to try that process on. Thank you also for the photos of the red deck and the page link. :D
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby CBJ » Sun May 04, 2014 12:34 am  

Hello all,


Sorry for the lack of posting, I was a bit busy the last couple of days.
I'll be posting more frequently starting Monday!





nECr0MaNCeD wrote:Hello CBJ;
My question is about displays. Are all of your decks displayed? If so, how? I saw the picture of your first display but I doubt you managed to stick 720 decks in there... :D



Hey nECr0MaNCeD,


As of this moment, I have none of my decks displayed... not even in that wooden display box I showed earlier.
I had a friend help me build a few displays a while back, but then they just sat there unfinished for the last 6 months.
The displays can display 12 decks per shelf if they are facing out, or 50 decks per shelf if they are sideways.


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Anyway, last weekend I had another friend spray them black for me... here are the pics!



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I'm hoping to have them installed sometime this week! I'll post pics when it's done



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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby nECr0MaNCeD » Sun May 04, 2014 1:05 am  

Hey CBJ;
Thanks for the reply and pics.The displays look great. I am looking for someone local to help design some displays for my collection. I'd do it myself but I failed wood shop... :oops:
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby CBJ » Sun May 04, 2014 12:44 pm  

I just did some quick weight calculations on how much the decks would weigh on these displays.


This is only the weight of the cards.. not the actual display...

If I face all the decks out (12 decks per shelf X 7 rows = 84 decks), the decks will weigh roughly 17-18 lbs.

If I put all the decks sideways (50 decks per shelf X 7 rows = 350 decks). the decks will weigh over 70 lbs... SEVENTY POUNDS!


PLUS the weight of the display!

I'm going to have to really reinforce these things.



May the 4th be with you...


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Image I was the featured collector on UC for May/June 2014, check it out: http://bit.ly/UC_MyCollection..
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby Eoghann » Sun May 04, 2014 3:22 pm  

Hot damn. Gotta make those out of aluminum! :)
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Re: UC Featured Collector for May/June CBJ

Unread postby RSLancastr » Sun May 04, 2014 3:56 pm  

CBJ wrote:SEVENTY POUNDS!


So, a deck weighs ~.2 Lbs. then?

If so, that would mean that a brick weighs 2.4 lbs, and that one of my ~80-deck BCW boxes weighs ~16 lbs, fully loaded, and that my entire (~2,400-deck) collection weighs ~480 lbs?!

Holy moley!
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